“He’s the biggest softy you could ever meet – no matter what the government try to label him as” – Interview with an XL Bully owner
On the 15th September 2023, the government made the announcement that we all hoped would never happen – another ‘type’ of dog was to be added to Section 1 of the Dangerous Dogs Act by the end of the year.
In response to a number of recent dog attacks by so-called American XL bullies, Prime Minister Rishi Sunak claimed that all dogs of this appearance were a “danger to our communities” and hastened plans were set in motion to ban the XL bully in the UK.
As with the American Pit Bull Terrier, defining an XL bully isn’t a simple task, given that American bullies are crossbreeds and not recognised as a breed in this country. As we’ve seen since the Pit Bull was banned in 1991, this means that any dog which fits the ‘type’ can be deemed illegal (for example, a Staffordshire Bull Terrier crossed with a Labrador could be typed as a Pit Bull if it meets certain body measurements).
Since the announcement, XL bully owners have understandably become extremely concerned about what the future may look like for their pets. Hundreds of demonstrators flocked to London to protest the ban, with others at bully meets taking place around the country pleading with lawmakers to take a ‘deed not breed’ approach.
Breed specific legislation (BSL) has not reduced the number of dog attacks in the UK during the last 32 years, with major animal welfare organisations already campaigning for an overhaul of the Dangerous Dogs Act including the removal of BSL. In addition to costing taxpayers thousands, wasting police resources and not actually achieving its aim of protecting the public, BSL has another cost – the effect it has on well behaved family dogs which pose no threat to people. (Click here to read a previous interview with a Pit Bull owner who was returned from police kennels in a very poor state).
Frankie is an American XL bully who is a much loved pet. He can usually be found hanging out at Barber Browns barber shop in Shifnal, Shropshire, which belongs to his owner Mat.
We caught up with Mat to learn a little bit more about Frankie and what the upcoming XL bully ban will mean for the pair.
Hi, Mat! Tell us about Frankie.
“I got Frankie almost 5 years ago, after looking to get a shop dog for almost a year. I was originally looking at Staffies and Miniature Bull Terriers, but I knew those breeds have a lot of energy, so as much as they’re amazing dogs I didn’t think they would be best suited for being in the shop for long hours with me. So I started looking at other breeds, did a lot of research, and finally had my heart set on the American bullies because of their personality traits – they’re so docile and so well-natured. I got Frankie when he was 3 months old, and from then he has come to work with me every day. Even when he was a puppy he was just so calm. I couldn’t ask for a better dog. He loves other animals and just wants to play with any dog, from small and fluffy to big and dopey. He loves kids and just wants to play with them – as long as they love kisses because that’s all he wants to do.”
Frankie is described as ‘a member of the team’ at Barber Browns – what does he get up to in the shop?
“When Frankie is at work with me, he sleeps most the day but will come over to say hello if clients want him to. He definitely has his favourites who I’m pretty sure only come in to have a fuss from Frankie, not to get their hair cut! He is everyone’s favourite member of the team, and even though he snores like a foghorn, the shop would not be the same without him here.”
How does Frankie help with your mental health?
“As someone who suffers with anxiety and depression, Frankie is literally my rock. As anyone reading this suffering with mental illness will know, it can be debilitating even when medicated. We all have our own ways of coping on a daily basis, but Frankie gives me a reason to wake up in the morning. I can hand on heart say that I don’t think I would be here without him. When I’m having my bad days and can’t face the world, he will happily just cuddle up with me on the sofa, but since having him these days have become less frequent because he helps me focus my mind and gives me a reason to get up and out the house. Dogs are man’s best friend, not just for company but for mental wellbeing in my opinion. Frankie definitely is for me.”
What will the upcoming XL bully ban mean for you and Frankie?
“With the ban looking like it’s going to be passed, we are all very scared about what that will look like and how we will be able to keep our fur family. So if I am able to keep Frankie with the exemption process, his life will change dramatically. He is used to being around people all day, and will go from this to being locked away in the house and only being able to come out when I walk him with a muzzle. He won’t be able to go and play with his dog mates as he won’t be able to be off the lead. It’s literally a prison sentence and completely against a dog’s natural behaviour.”
What are your own thoughts on alternative legislation such as licensing?
“I believe that this ban will not change a thing when it comes to dog attacks in the UK, as seen since the Dangerous Dogs Act was introduced in 1991 – year after year dog attacks have increased. We all agree this needs to stop, but banning breeds hasn’t worked in the past and logic dictates that it will not work this time, because the fact is it isn’t the dogs, it’s the type of evil people abusing their dogs and having them as a status symbol. This is what we need to tackle, so I believe that a dog license and insurance system for all dogs across the UK needs to be put in place (similar to other countries’ systems) which has been proven to reduce the number of dog attacks by significant margin.”
Finally – If you could share one message with policymakers, what would it be?
“To the policymakers, I know you have to be seen to be doing something about dog attacks and rightfully so. But using biased and “back of napkin” research from the likes of ‘Bully Watch’ isn’t right. We have shown you all the facts and you are choosing to ignore the information being presented by organisations such as the RSPCA. And if this doesn’t change, there will be a mass execution of our amazing animals because they look a certain way – it is completely barbaric. Please look at other alternatives that will protect the public because as history has taught us, BSL doesn’t work. There are better solutions!”
Jayne, from not for profit organisation Save our Seized Dogs, which provides advice and help to owners of dogs seized in the UK, comments:
“Unfortunately the government are determined to bring about this ban, despite breed bans being a proven failure internationally.
The volume of bull breeds who could potentially fall under this ban is vast, and the priority now must be to keep your dog safe.”
Save our Seized Dogs kindly included the below advice for owners who may find themselves owning a banned breed by the end of the year.
- Muzzle train your dog now. Take it slowly and only use positive reinforcement, and choose a muzzle which allows plenty of pant room. If budget allows, get a lightweight made to measure muzzle from companies such as Truffle Muzzles. If your budget is for off the shelf only, look at the Baskerville Ultra.
- Your dog must be on a lead in public, so invest in a good, strong lead and collar or harness. It’s wise to double lead your dog – so many dogs’ lives are put at risk by collars or leads breaking, this means your dog will be in breach of their exemption conditions, risking them being destroyed. By doubling up on leads, one attached to a collar and one to the harness, you are reducing the risk, as if one breaks you have the second as a back up. Never use Flexi (extendable) leads.
- Your dog will have to be surgically neutered, and proof of this from your vet will be required. If your dog is still young, book them in anyway, most vets will take bookings well in advance, especially under the current circumstances. By having your dog booked to be neutered you are demonstrating willingness to comply with the restrictions prior to the proposed amnesty period ending.
- Gardens must be secure. Check all fencing; a 6ft fence is considered an appropriate height. Padlock any gates so that they can’t be opened by uninvited visitors or delivery persons. If possible install an external letterbox, otherwise install a letterbox basket so no injuries can be alleged by leaflet droppers or postal workers. Place a baby gate across your hallway so your dog can’t run outside if you open the front door.
- Train your dog well. Many dog trainers are currently running free help videos for owners. A well behaved dog is unlikely to have people complaining about them.
- If you can afford to, put up CCTV covering front and rear gardens. Ring cameras are relatively affordable, and if there are allegations about your dogs on your property, camera footage may well save their lives. Invest in a bodycam for walking, as again video footage will prove or disprove any complaints.
- Your dog is your responsibility, and if you don’t comply with conditions imposed you risk them being seized. They will be held in police approved kennels, which are in secret locations and you will not be allowed visits. You may get sporadic updates on their wellbeing at best. You will have to attend court to plead for your dogs life to be spared, and they will not look favourably if you have already refused to comply or breached conditions.
- If the police do come to seize your dog, stay calm and polite – they are judging the owner as much as the dog. Never sign any paperwork or digital forms as you may be signing ownership over to the police. Your dog will be put to sleep quickly if a signature is given.
- Your dog can have freedom to be off lead and unmuzzled for exercise in private rented fields. These are generally around £10 an hour, but some will accept several dogs in one booking if you get together with friends or family to share costs.
A big thank you to Mat for sharing Frankie’s story. For more information, please visit the Save our Seized Dogs website and Facebook page for details about how to support the cause.
There is also an ongoing ‘Don’t Ban Me, Licence Me’ fundraiser to raise money for legally challenging the ban which can be found here.

































